Let's Report To Leadership What We Heard.....Updated March 14, 2015

WW is quite aware that Devoted to Jane Woffers  (DTJWs), along with members of their crack "security detail,

report back to leadership, any and every piece of information that is said or written about WOFF or Jane or it's members or it's practices.

WOFF members tattling on one another, even lying about another to get them in trouble, is widely encouraged as an effective way to keep everyone in check, and in constant fear.

What the ( verb, adverb, adjective, command, interjection, noun) kind of religion does this?

Not a religion. It's someone's version of a religion. It's a religion where one person has convinced herself and apparently everybody that will listen, that WOFFers are the only ones going to heaven.

Give us all a very large break!

In the WOFF world their truths win. That's a tiny constituency and irrelevant to THE WORLD at large. But WOFF's actions are far from irrelevant to THE WORLD.

In THE WORLD outside the "church" the facts win. The law favors the truth. The law has been known to fix matters involving non truths.

Lies are what keep this "church" going. Lies are what are keeping families apart. Lies have produced what other hardships for some, as in two or three jobs, some not resulting in payment, and advantage and riches for others, such as swimming pools, furs, jewelry, art, 40+ acres, and a mansion.

Lies like: "If you leave, you will get cancer and die, or become a drug addict, or be sued for slander (if what you are accusing them of is true, then it isn't slander), or your family will disown you (NO, those characters want you to believe that because they are ORDERING your family to disown you, it's not of their own free will), or no one will ever love you again (oh please!), or, (my favorite) God will send you to hell. Oh please!

Jane has no way of knowing your future. You could be in hell now, and I must say with very nicely mowed lawns....and plenty of parking.

She doesn't know any of these things to be true, and she can't prove them. Not even the cancer deaths. God schedules those.

"Lies" are the stock answer given by WOFF'ers when asked about stories ex WOFF'ers tell regarding their experiences at WOFF. They are all "Lies". As if everything about WOFF were wonderful and perfect...

A cadre of lawyers, financial backers, affluent church members and cooperative politicians make the WOFF world possible. This is common knowledge around the Rutherfordton county region. Add a dose of fear, dismissal of the truth, testimonials from current members and leadership, illusion, delusion and deception, and you have WOFF version of credibility.

Although not common knowledge, but the enablers have been identified, and their individual futures and freedoms could be in question, if past, present and future investigations produce details resulting in indictment and conviction. Leadership and Jane's complacency along with complicated legal protection, will only give this mess more ammo for the feds and other agencies to examine.

This is why you must ASK QUESTIONS. Why you must DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. This why you must listen to everything said, but especially LISTEN TO WHAT IS NOT SAID.

WOFF leadership particularly, parses their words, that is, carefully edit, craft what is said, in the form of a statement.

While some corporate entities, even some religions organizations, use public relations to spin the truth, WOFF has it's lawyers, as well as their own measured language to parse and spin as well as refuse to respond, or answer with silence, as some lawyers like to say.

How is that right? A religion where people supposedly worship GOD, but they have lawyers who control the facts and operate in secret and money going in every direction?  This is a very Catholic model if there ever was one.

Here's how the outside sees WOFF:

• Secret Operation
• Controlled environment
• Carefully crafted culture
• Unequally distributed wealth

Regarding WOFF or WOFF-member incidents with law enforcement, government agencies and courts that in the last 15-20 years, WW has noticed that some or all of the testimony from victims or witnesses have been challenged by opposing counsel and resulted in an advantage for WOFF.

The reason for this is that the complainants don't have any idea how to help their counsel build a case. This isn't their fault. They aren't in the business of going to court and fighting a case. WOFF IS. They are old pros at it.

Since the WW blog has been online, an impressive amount of incidents involving WOFF and WOFF members has warranted the attention of local law enforcement. Check the links part of this blog for documented accounts.

If you think you have been a victim of a crime, that is, if YOU believe a crime was committed against you,  then you should stand for your rights. You can't, shouldn't, allow yourself or to continue to be a victim.  No, the process should be to promote yourself from victim to who you were before, just a whole lot stronger. Promote yourself from victim to plaintiff.

Civil rights violations are against the law. Such violations include keeping you against your will when you attempt to leave the church, as well as the subsequent "treatment "you get from the "leadership".


You can grow as a person if you take yourself out of follower and victim mode. Don't let someone else decide your life for you. They can never truly know what is inside you. They can tell you what you're thinking but they can't KNOW what you're thinking.

What you do with your life is between YOU and GOD, the way it was always intended to be. Take out the middle man. Or Women (plural) or Man Haters, after all, this is WOFF we're talking about.

Freedom of speech baby! Responsibly assembled facts stacked against your perceived juggernaut of defense, will always take you down.

-WOFFWATCHER

Who's Lying? The war of propaganda

So, you hear different things from different people about things important to you. WHO do you believe? WHAT do you believe? How do you process what you're told?

Those in WOFF will tell you one thing, others will tell you otherwise, and so on. It has to be tough to make sense of it all and to carry on your daily life.

If you're on the inside and questioning things, are you wrong to question them? Are you wrong to consider opposing views?

Walter Lippmann (American Journalist, 1889-1974) said: “Where all think alike, no one thinks very much”

When political candidates, statesmen and leaders prepare for conferences with a competitor, a potential enemy, someone they seek in which to do business, an opposing candidate, simply doing a transaction with another party, they prepare their own opposition research. The smartest and most logical minds are put in place to learn and document everything they know about the other party, how they think, their history, how they would argue the other side. This kind of preparation is critical in knowing what to expect. Then that information is left to those who would represent industry or country or opposing side, that are experienced in dealing at this level.

Many of us do opposition research without even realizing it.

Say you're buying a home and you want to know everything there is to know about that home. How are you going to find out you're getting a good deal? Are you just taking the Realtor's word for it? The Realtor is serving themselves, maybe the seller but not necessarily in that order. You are just a by product of the process. So, now you have the internet, tax records, the word of neighbors, perhaps even your own experience available. If you have gone outside the comfort of the word of your Realtor, then you have conducted opposition research.

If you haven't. Then, stop that practice. Learn everything you can, and not from only one source. This is a fundamental of good journalism. Everything investigated has to have more than one source to be credible. Try this and see how it works for you. Answers have to meet the facts.

This is part of common sense, which, unfortunately, is not common.

But despite this preparation, many who arm themselves with facts don't have the skill to counter their opposition on equal ground. And this is where people get in trouble. I have seen many a prepared person get taken under by a skilled car salesman, Realtor or attorney because they are not familiar nor comfortable with sparring with the opposition. All of their hard work in gathering information is useless because the opposition took things to the next level.

But, don't kick yourself for this! We are all human. Some of us don't have it in their DNA to spar or negotiate with others.

And this is where dealing with WOFF leadership comes in. They know all the things to say. They have a protocol for every situation, despite how well armed you may be with questions, facts, and such..You are treated first with love ( a manipulation ) and then counseled (second stage of a manipulation, usually involving some type of punishment {wait this is the reason you got out in the first place}) and finally talked in to believing you were the one that was wrong ( third stage{wait, now it's my fault?}). Is love the reason? Or control?

And then, you're back in. Just where you started. How did they do it? How did they convince me? Was I really wrong? Are they wrong? What do they have to gain? How do I know if they are lying?

Simple. You give them power by giving it up to them. The only reason things happen to you is because you allow it to happen. You enable them by not standing your ground and agreeing to the first or next response they have. Make them back up their answers. "Jane said.." or "God said.." just isn't going to cut it.

The same way you give your Realtor power over you by their controlling the information you have on the home you are buying. The same as the attorney or salesman who answers your questions but doesn't offer any facts outside of the questions you didn't ask.  Ronald Reagan said: " Trust, but verify". It works here too.

Consider the facts. Rationalize logic, set aside emotion. What is practical? What is important? What have you gained? How do you see yourself in one year, five years, ten years?Are they answering your questions, or are they diverting your question or answering it with answers. As I have said before: true faith is always willing to be challenged.

Remember, there are a lot more people out there that love you than inside WOFF. This is an indisputable hard fact.It's in the numbers, but most importantly who, like your family and your friends. The Faith Freedom Fund is there if you have no resources. The religiouscultsinfo.com 828- 289 -7923 Hotline is available. And WOFFWATCHER's links and words can hopefully help you see things clearer.

Know Freedom (to worship god as you wish) = No WOFF = No Jane (nobody's perfect).

Fighting for you, Always with tough-love

-WOFFWATCHER

DOCUMENT EVERYTHING... more links & some homework for you

WW continues to explore the areas where WOFF members, and those contemplating leaving, or who are struggling with certain issues, as well as families on the outside, can help themselves as well as others in your situation. Previous blogs have other links as well, and you're invited to scroll back and review those.

So, here begins another list of places, ideas, agencies that may apply to your specific situation, as well as some tips on documenting your experience.

Given that a number of properties in the area may have WOFF ties, a call or letter to the North Carolina Real Estate Commission  would be in order to implement a watchful eye on your local realtors, to determine if previous complaints have been filed, or to share an experience you believe was worth a closer look. A complaint or two is one thing, but a series of letters or calls to their office will get their attention and possibly lead to an investigation.

Do WOFF members go through your mail at "home" or even your PO Box? The USPS has a formidable law enforcement branch within it's organization, and takes any matter of alleged mail tampering, very seriously, if you believe this has happened.  https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/

WOFF has an interesting, if yet telling number of firms with which they do business. Have an experience to share? The bar association might be interested in the goings on of some of it's members associated with WOFF. The links page alone will steer you to firms in cases where they were defended. Why such a defense system? Shouldn't these firms also be under scrutiny?   http://www.ncbar.org/

Has your doctor or medical facility done something out of the ordinary and you think it's WOFF related, then contact: http://www.ncmedboard.org/

The FCC might be the go-to agency if you feel your isp is being monitored by any internet companies which may be associated with WOFF. Do you think your phone calls are being recorded? They will want to know this. http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm

Have you experienced local or regional law enforcement unwilling to intervene in certain WOFF matters? Do you believe that your civil rights have been violated? The US Justice Department might be interested if your complaint has specific details: http://www.justice.gov/crt/.  LGBT persons who believe their civil rights have been violated should contact: Equality North Carolina    

Who carries a concealed weapon in your congregation or area? You might try: :http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Public_access_to_concealed_carry_lists , and your local sheriff's department;  http://www.rutherfordcountync.gov/dept/sheriffs/Main.php  or State Bureau of Investigations  http://www.ncdoj.gov/SBI.aspx  as permit holders names and other information is a matter of public record. It's a good idea to know who's carrying:  http://www.docstoc.com/docs/21975592/North-Carolina-Concealed-Handgun-Permit-Statistics-by-County .As of 2009 , Rutherford County reported 2,765 regular applications for a gun permit, 1,206 Valid Permits, 35 regular permit applications denied and 3 regular permit applications revoked. Also of note, see the link: Half Of North Carolina Concealed Carry Permit Holders With Felony Convictions Keep Their Permit  Gun laws: http://www.ncdoj.com/getdoc/32344299-a2a7-4ae5-99fd-9018262f64ac/2007-NC-Firearms-gun-Laws.aspx  and finally:
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/North_Carolina

Is an individual making it difficult for you to get information at a local venue? Find out what the chain of command is there and see if the top person is WOFF associated. If not, go to that person and tell them what you are trying to accomplish and let them know that there is someone who is making it difficult for you to find out.WW highly recommends the book: Pulling Your Own Strings. It has made a life changing difference in one person I know and can help you with dealing with those who would want to control you. Everything in this book is common sense that we simply don't apply to everyday life and situations. (by the way, common sense isn't common). WW considers the results of your lessons in this book to be a Dragon Killer to those who would try to control you. Most importantly, It puts you in charge to make your own decisions.  Just so you know, WW has no stake on the sale of this book. Besides, a used copy runs for one cent and you pay for just the shipping. Get it. WW will review this and a couple of other books in future blogs.

When writing, calling or asking in person Always be professional, to the point, courteous, and non confrontational. This is the only way civil people make progress.

DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING is very important, even what you believe to be a minor detail, it might be important to an investigation.

In reading recent incident reports as filed by ex WOFF'ers, I noticed that there were certain lack of details, thus making an investigation or for to be charges filed, difficult or impossible. WW understands that it may be hard to DOCUMENT EVERYTHING just after it happened because of the heightened sense of fear, adrenaline, or emotions. This is where witnesses are key. An observer not directly involved can give a more detailed account of the incident.

It may be hard to find a witness if things are being done behind closed doors or if a potential witness is in fear of reprisal. This is why you must train yourself to be able to give as much detail to your account as possible. This includes names, dates, times, what they were wearing, how they carried out an act against you, with what, and when and how many and what they said, where. File a complaint immediately, as soon as it happened.

WW has also discovered that perhaps some (not all) local law enforcement officers may not be comprehensively trained in dealing with potential victims of cult like organizations. This may hinder any possible investigation in handling a potential victim. This is a specialized and necessary type of training and WW encourages local law enforcement to take the initiative to see that it's officers are trained in this area. Like it or not officers, there is a cult in your own back yard and it's members need help. I would also encourage any organizations, profit or otherwise, to bring a treatment facility to the region that treats cult victims. Such a move would bring attention and ultimate credibility to this serious and ongoing tragedy in the community.

WW has concluded from research and observation, that not all members of occupations and industries mentioned in today's blog, are WOFF associated. You might find that hard to conclude this if you are a WOFF'er/ Ex-WOFF'er/Family Member. It's understandable. There is no list of WOFF associated and not associated. You may also have to watch out for people who play both sides.

In your gathering information, or filing a complaint, you may find that dealing with WOFF'ers and WOFF associated people may be defensive. Some may answer a question with a question. Body language and tone are also dead giveaways. WW has experienced this first hand with some members being quite confrontational. Don't fear them as they fear you. You have the power. Truth is power. But also be wary of people you feel you can trust. Only give information relevant to your situation. Never just spill out everything and tell them you're relieved you finally found someone trusting, because not all is as it seems  If it's law enforcement and you are a victim, subject or suspect, then you tell them everything, as you should. Same goes for being a witness in court .

HOW you go about reporting or filing a complaint about something you believe was done wrong to you, and listening to how the other party responds is key. Most importantly, be absolutely sure, truthful  and careful about your details.

Remember, when filing a complaint, ask yourself if it is reasonable and responsible? Does it have details and facts. Don't leave opinions and hearsay. Leave out commentary and presumption. Ask yourself If you were the one conducting the investigation or interview, would you find holes in the account, an axe to grind, or is it frivolous?

The agencies featured here can and will investigate complaints and will determine if infractions, or crimes, have been committed, and proceed accordingly. Your responsibility is to be truthful, stay alert, and DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, for details and specifics matter. If you are in a situation where you believe what you write down and store isn't safe, it is important to remember: WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, HOW.  If you remember just these words, then you can sort them out in your head or on paper later. Only details will matter in your report. Get the names of every one you talk to when filing your report or complaint you file. Leave out the "set up" that most people don't realize they are including in telling a story.

This "church" and it's leadership and membership is responsible for the well being of our loved ones here on this earth. We hold WOFF accountable through our responsible and lawful vigilance.

If WOFF feels they don't answer to anyone, I disagree, with credibility.
 
Stay tuned.

ASK QUESTIONS
DOCUMENT EVERYTHING

-WOFFWATCHER

Controversy

Fish Or Cut Bait...A Special Comment

First, A Story...

A dog lies lazily on his side on a front porch on a hot summer day. Every now and then the dog howls in pain, contemplating getting up, but doesn't. This practice goes on and on and on for hours. A neighbor stops by the house to visit with the dog's owner to talk about some neighborhood gossip when the dog howls again. The neighbor asks "why is the dog howling? . The owner says "the dog is lying on a nail". The neighbor asks "why doesn't he get off the nail?"The owner says: "because it doesn't hurt enough yet".
And, so we have the WOFFer who wants to leave, is thinking about leaving, only the nail causing him/her pain, doesn't hurt enough..... yet.

Since July of last year, I have made my position known on the illegitimacy of WOFF. I have posted words of encouragement, ideas to pursue, challenged WOFF leadership and ideology, provided links to WOFF and related subjects, provided counter ideas to their twisted logic, pleaded with you to leave this tragedy waiting to happen, and even given you scenarios that will most likely occur as time goes on.

And you have read (thank you), and you have looked at the links. Some of you have even posted comments.

And, some of you who read this blog, play for the other team. WW knows that, and much more.

But I digress.

I know, for some people leaving WOFF can be daunting. It might also be complicated because it might not just be you. Your spouse and family might not be on the same page. I know, that's a dilemma. Taking such a big step requires courage and a plan. Yes, it does. Yeah, they might have you locked in pretty good, or at least have you thinking that way.

But all your whimpering, complaining, crying, whining, dreaming, fantasizing.....won't get the job done unless you, like the dog on the porch, Get Off your Lazy, Timid, Behinds and Get Moving.

The place you go to "church" is bad for you. It is bad for your health. It is bad for the people outside it that love you. It is bad for your friends INSIDE the "church". It is bad for the community.

It is bad.

These people are lying to you.

These people are doing insane things in the name of God.

These people have made you their slaves.

What they are doing to you is at the very least, evil, possibly criminal and certainly beyond reprehensible.

This is a place where secrecy, paranoia, constant and ever present monitoring, screaming out demons, abuse, and controversy, lives in your daily life, and can't be good for anyone.

These people above you in leadership will ultimately be investigated and charged if they are responsible for criminal acts and sued for civil ones.

By the way, that "waiver" you signed, will be thrown out in court, and isn't worth the piece of paper on which it is written because it's not enforceable. Their lawyers will tell you otherwise, but they're not YOUR lawyers, don't believe them!

Opponents to this blog would dismiss this as anything but vitriol and bluster.

You are wrong, cult - breath!

The WOFF leadership, such as it is, view the outside world with contempt, paranoia and disdain. They will tell you that I am lying and that terrible things will happen to you if you leave. Again, they are lying to you as they have no proof of this.

THEY WILL NEVER PROVE THIS.

Those who would challenge WOFF would only waste their time, as WOFF will hold strong, in their twisted view.

Of course this is going to be their stance. They know they have you under their thumb and any "outsider" isn't going to sway them, you or anybody in WOFF. They have you scared and believing them. To your families and those outside your "church" ,YOU HAVE BECOME SMILING ZOMBIES OF BLISS.

But REAL FAITH IS ALWAYS WILLING TO BE CHALLENGED.

Real faith can be explored by you outside of this place. Real faith and love await you to explore and worship as you want outside of this place.

These people, Jane Whaley particularly, have gotten rich from YOUR hard work and money. She will get richer and thus, more powerful around those she controls with YOUR money, until she and WOFF is exposed for the fraud that is clearly going on.

Time and time again I have said that this will all end and it will end badly. It will end because people will tell their story to the authorities, the authorities will investigate, and the authorities will not come up empty handed. There will be so much to investigate here that the feds will have their hands full. They will investigate the alleged abuses, both physically and emotionally, to people in their "church" now, and those who have left and continue to come forward. They will investigate the trail of money that comes from YOU, that comes from "secret" contributors (not secret to me, I KNOW who they are) and where the money goes, how it is spent, what for, as well as WHO is paid to keep this organization powerful and moving forward. They will investigate the already documented accounts of people who were electronically monitored. Foreign governments along with our State Department will investigate the legitimacy of foreign students working conditions and treatment,as well as the fund raising in foreign countries.There will be investigations into the chaperoning of WOFF members to Doctor's and clinic visits, which is potentially a violation of the HIPPAA act..

And, it's all because WOFF feels because it is above accountability. How arrogant is that?

WOFF: the bottom line here is that your organization will be dismantled.

Between your current(soon to be ex) followers, ex members, interested community members, Federal Agencies, Me, and more, will see to that.

Laugh and scoff all you want.

However, never underestimate the power of determination. History has shown that determination has brought down governments, civilizations, corruption and evil.

So what makes WOFF so different? Nothing. WOFF leadership is delusional.

God on your side? Not the same as everyone Else's.

Money on their side? That's just WOFF, and there are more of US than you and your money.

The next fight WOFF picks will be their last, as all eyes interested in this place will swarm in with suits and briefcases and badges and lots and lots of paper. Hope the hotels in Rutherford County will be prepared.

So, Fish or cut bait? Read everything I have posted to remind you, to give you ideas, to give you logic to challenge them. And if something happened to you, write everything down in detail, because the cops will want to know. And don't be afraid of them being in cahoots with Jane. Those cops will be found out if they are. The Justice Department will want to know this.

If you plan on getting out, get moving..... Just get out.There is no "nice" way of dealing with these people. Get in their face and tell them to leave you alone. They don't play by the rules, so you don't have to either. But don't do anything stupid or illegal.

By the way: How's that nail feeling about now?

Ask Questions
WOFFWATCHER

WAKE UP! EVERYBODY

No one ever sets out to join a cult.

But you did.
WOFFWATCHER knows, from the inside, the group is inspirational, loving and caring.

• But then, a line is crossed. 

• You have now joined a congregation that is:

• Dependent on secrecy... i.e. lifestyle, infrastrucure

• Results in Broken Families

• Has a formidable legal defense...but they don't argue on facts, rather manipulate the law to their own advantage.

• Claim that their theology is the only path that leads to heaven.

 Now, you have the true definition of a cult. A theater masquerading as a "church".

Most of us who think responsibly, know that structure in our lives is critical to our survival. It is a reason many seek this from their place of worship.

Our small infrastructure begins with:

• Our family.

• Our community

• Our work, and...

• Our God

Our common component to making decisions is based on trust.

We use trust as our rationale to help decide.

We trust sales people.

We trust real estate agents.

We trust banks.

We trust lawyers.

We trust doctors.

We trust journalists.

We trust our religious leaders.

We trust those politicians and parties we support.

We trust our spouse.

Most of these examples all have some suspicion, negativity, or reputation that we place on them.

Who benefits more from our trust? It, they, them or us?

Are they keeping information from us that would impact our decision?

Do we have the instinct, experience or information to ask more questions? Do you have the instinct to hear what's not been said?

Are our decisions sometimes clouded by a word, a phrase, an ideology, emotion, need, a personality, an atmosphere?

People sometimes fall in love blindly with other people, things, or beliefs. We go ahead without even considering the investment, discretion, benefits, or potential negative impacts.

People sometimes buy something they don't really need because they just like the salesman.What do they know about that salesman? Why might he be the BEST salesman? Sales? Satisfied customers?

Real estate agents may have an agenda on where to place you, how much money to get from you, despite your wishes. Why is there a long list of realty associations, federal and state agencies watching them? Why are there so many real estate companies and agents? Which are the good ones?

Are banks charging you hidden fees or more interest than they should? Did they foreclose on people dishonestly? Then why did the government establish a The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? Why did banks and financial companies lobby so hard to keep the government from establishing this agency?


Doctors and Lawyers speak their own language. Do we even know what to ask them? Can we really believe them? How well are they protected if things go wrong? How well are WE protected if things go wrong? Again, what AREN'T they saying?

Do journalists tell the whole story? Do they have an agenda? How would you know true journalism?  Ultimately, it takes education, life experience, cultural experience, social tolerance, a little math and a little science to really know the difference between real journalism and the other stuff.

Everyone agrees that political leaders and parties are the most challenged group in this category. Some politicians can't get out of their own way. Others with good intentions fall prey to the temptations of holding such an important office. This subject evokes cynicism, mistrust, emotion and skepticism than most of the above. It has the same dynamics with the journalists comparison as well as the salesman, banks, doctors and lawyers and even real estate.

Your spouse is the person who knows you best. Trust is critical. Many spouses are questioning their other spouses about being in WOFF. Listen to your spouse if he/she has doubts or fear. LISTEN. PROTECT.

Religious leaders will sometimes downplay or dismiss challenge to their theology.
To whom do they answer? (earthly, that is) Financially? Responsibility? (see the Catholic Church) Morally?

Real faith is ALWAYS willing to be challenged. Don't accept: "we don't answer to anyone".

Jim Jones, David Koresh, Warren Jeffs, didn't, and moved their congregations to isolated areas, where they could be self sufficient, exploit the laws of smaller, less developed governments. Your "church" has defied that model and boldly has used money to gain power and protection within a system potentially already corrupted.

Those cult leaders, were fed by Power, Paranoia and Greed. Once cornered, they were prone to the destruction of their cult. All with some form of violence and or tragedy as the end result.

How will this play out?

So then......

We can all agree that checks and balances are necessary in all of these categories. Some were established to minimize fraud, and to promote their industry or belief.

We all look back on our decisions and either time or results will prove us right or wrong. Sometimes we don't know if we made the right decision, right away.

Decisions  -  Time   -   Results

We'll look back and find that we were either lazy, complacent, feel others values are the same as ours, and or fair minded, and then forget about it and go about our day. People with an agenda see that in you and can take advantage of that.

And, then you realize it has happened here, to you.

This is where we WAKE UP and see for our very eyes what has happened.

But there were always signs these examples would prove otherwise, and we miss those regularly. While we can't get them all, we could minimize mistakes by moving slower, more deliberate in our decision making.

We WANT to trust. Most importantly, We WANT, NEED..... to ALWAYS BE VIGILANT, especially with our own lives and those who for whom we care.

We MUST take responsibility for our choices and then modify those choice to bring us back to center.

This blog is about common sense and love, not lies.It's about your personal freedom.
This isn't taking you away from God. God will be there when you leave. God will be there when you find another church.

It's helping you see the lies being told to you about what happens to you when you leave this "church".It's helping you keep from being afraid about your every move. It's helping you understand and realize that someone watching your every move is not the love of God.

Your "church", enforced by it's leaders, enabled by their network on the outside to make all of this possible, is also enabled by you, because of your trust.

It might be a tough decision to make, very tough, for some people. The healing doesn't come until you confront the pain....and you should get help to get through this. For some people it's just like trying to come off of medication. It could be that critical.

You can right the choice you made. Ultimately, you have the freedom and the power to worship God in YOUR own way.

You can take control instead of others controlling you. Just start with NO.

The intentions here are not to confuse you.

They are intended to make you THINK.
THINK outside of your present "comfort" zone.
THINK for your life and for your family.
THINK because it is the right thing to do.
THINK if others controlling you is in your best interest.
THINK because you may be enabling something that may be ultimately bad for you.

If the feeling is that WOFF has outside obstacles, consider these facts:

• Numbers of people will affect change there by leaving the "church" and will impact potential membership.

• Atrocious, certainly laughable alleged attempts at surveillance. It is effective only for those who adhere to this kind of system. And dangerous.

• Journalism will bring global attention to this congregation's practices. Facts are stubborn things.

• How long will it take until the government opens an investigation?

• How long do you think people on the outside that work for businesses and organizations supporting WOFF will stay quiet?

But, Love will prevail. 

ASK QUESTIONS!
-WOFFWATCHER

Your Privacy: Are You Being Watched?

WW recently discovered a court case in California involving the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the alleged use of stalking and wire fraud over it's members.

From the ( 4Jehovah.org ) website:

From: Case Number 3:10-CV-03907-MEJ Document 50 filed in The United States District Court For The Northern District of California on May 23, 2011 and from the link:  http://4jehovah.org/images/stories/downloads/jehovahs_witness/spying/case-doc50-pp32-33.pdf 

In this case, the Plaintiffs Jonathan D Cobb, Sr and Walter Arlene St. Clair provide evidence of wire fraud on pages 32-33, where they state:

“The Defendants have utilized people with specific skills such as Mr. Bruce Radetich, who is an ex-police officer and now a security specialist who, it is believed has been employed in an effort to use illegal means to surreptitiously monitor phone calls in hopes of gaining information as to the possible direction the Plaintiff’s are heading with regard to legal matters. Certain personal cell phones of the Plaintiff’s as well as other parties closely associated with the Plaintiff’s appear as if they have been monitored by parties outside. One particular cell phone used by Jason Cobb was inspected by a cell phone specialist… where it was determined that the phone in question had been set up to allow a remote party to be able to intercept calls and monitor them. Milano the cell phone technician who worked on the cell phone in question has had nearly ten years of experience with various makes and models of phones and this party has agreed to testify about the state of the phone and the potential ramifications of what he discovered while working on Jason Cobb’s cell phone. The technician’s expert testimony can easily show intent and how far the Defendants, acting in consort with various confederates, are willing to go in an effort to try to conceal the true nature of this situation, not to mention clearly defining Wire Fraud issues.”  (end of website reference)

In reading many of these types of accounts online, isn't it reasonable to conclude that these practices are not proprietary?

Although the logic of: "If this has happened there, it MUST be happening here" would arguably become the primary thought, specifics and evidence, at the very least, would be needed to confirm this.

However, given documented accounts from former members over the years referencing behavior from WOFF, as it pertains to today's subject, give the casual observer reasonable grounds to conclude that SOME kind of alleged monitoring might also be practiced? If these appear similar, then isn't it interesting given that WOFF is said to have it's own "Security Specialist"?

WW asks questions: Do you have internet and or cable service? Is your internet company associated (that is, does it have members who are in WOFF?).

But then, what else? Who else has access (that you know about) to your: Cell Phone (there's an app for monitoring those monitoring you), computer log files kept by your isp, computer history, registry, (learn how your computer works and keep things private), mail (do you have a PO box? If you do and are asked about it in WOFF, ISN'T THAT EVIDENCE?)

Ask yourself.

Since July 2011, WW has pleaded with residents of Rutherfordton County, former members, current members contemplating leaving WOFF, people at banks, government and law enforcement who are NOT members, to TELL SOMEONE, if they have seen or have evidence (documentation) of anything that could or would get the attention of FEDERAL law enforcement and or GOVERNMENT agencies.

Now, that said, WW has reason to believe that some people in this area are afraid that SOME local authorities might be colluding with WOFF, thus taking a chance by going to someone for help when it might backfire. This is understandable. The local authorities in California weren't associated with the Jehovah's Witnesses and justice took it's course. The infrastructure here seemingly makes this task more difficult. But only SEEMINGLY.

However, area attorneys NOT associated with WOFF, particularly those who have defended others AGAINST WOFF, are most likely to know the players, and they could be a source of information that might prove useful. WW would start with them. They ALSO might know someone higher up who might be able to help.

WW also knows that people have contacted Washington agencies only to get thrown back to NC or regional offices that MIGHT be associated with WOFF. This can be frustrating unless you decide that there is no end to this, and you must see it through.

Specifics, names, truth, evidence, documentation, dates, times, quotes, actions, are among the most important elements in making your case and presenting it.

In calling an agency or calling on an agency in person you can encounter obstacles from the very beginning This can be enough to make anyone want to quit.

But don't. Here's how you get around it.

WW's rule of customer service: If you get someone that can't help you, it's because they: don't care, just killing time for a paycheck, barely got by the training and most likely needs additional training, and (this is true) don't like you (they might be having a bad day).

So, call that place again (or if in person, ask for someone else or go another time). WW GUARANTEES that if you do this, you will get a different answer, and probably one that will be helpful. This works every time, particularly with government employees who are now overworked due to budget and staff cuts, while some have an entitlement complex (again true).

Get AROUND conventional ways of dealing with people for this purpose. This is an unconventional situation, so you should approach it unconventionally. Read WW's earlier blog on Guerrilla tactics and how to deal with people.

People with evidence: You are out there.

Present Your Evidence to Authorities

Many people are affected by what is going on now.

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