Stand Up For Yourself

"The only reason for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"  -Edmund Burke


During the past month, I have watched and listened carefully at all things WOFF.

I wondered if my absence  providing current blogs since mid August would be conspicuous.

It was.

In previous blogs I have mentioned that I monitor all traffic, the visible and the intentionally invisible, to see who is accessing this blog. My regulars were just that, visiting the site regularly to glean from the invaluable links that I have gathered over time and, presumably, visits to other less visited blogs written here since July '11. During that time, I found people from many interesting places have come here: England, Germany, Brazil, Russia, Africa, Name any Scandinavian country, Japan, France, Southeast Asia, Australia and almost EVERY state in the U.S.

The Brazil and Scandinavian countries are noteworthy because WOFF ministries have extended their reach to these places for some time now. But the regularity of visits here are telling, because they too, have questions, or doubts, or seek information, just like folks here in the U.S.

Many of you have been looking for newer, fresher blogs. Thank you for continuing to visit this site.

I CAN tell you that the "Letter to Jane" was a major hit. It is up there with the blogs"Document Everything" , "Never Underestimate the Power..."and "Let's tell Leadership..." with the highest hits and traffic.

So, I am still here. I don't plan on going anywhere.

I have surmised that the two blogs connecting WOFF people, that is, families of members, and members themselves, and those contemplating joining WOFF, come here, and to religiouscultsinfo.com for ANY information, analysis, rants, comparisons, etc.

Let me say that the "rants" almost ALWAYS originate here, as I have said before that my aim is to get in WOFF's face and call them out.

While leadership at WOFF publicly, or even among themselves, wish to think that WOFFWATCHER is just a rant blog packed with lies, I know from chatter that they are unsettled by my calling them out, but more so the concern is that there is other work involved in bringing WOFF down.

John Huddle's religiouscultsinfo inside view to the world of WOFF and culture is heartbreaking and jaw dropping. His personal accounts are compelling. His analysis and comparisons are top notch. I learn something every time I read John's blog. His blog is must read for everyone with WOFF concerns.

WOFFWATCHER, on the other hand, is like the kid in school who just won't put up with bullies, questions the system, and creates awareness when the air is foul.

Just so you know, I WAS that kid in school. When I reached 6th grade, my father was horrified to learn how I handled bullies without ever having to confront them again, through High School. 

The WOFFWATCHER blog has made conclusions and comparisons viewed by some people as "reaching" or "out in left field", and that perspective is respected however I have to consider most of those views come from those not familiar with the culture or government or social perspective in which I am well versed. And I am glad it is LEFT field!

My lessons, comparisons and such, are perhaps asking the reader to be proactive.

This is why I believe that lessons aren't enough. They make my point, they may inspire, but the person needs out, the family needing answers, the interested person researching WOFF...is just reading.

My blogs are calls to action. They are intended as intellectual ammunition against those who would scoff at the very idea you might be questioning them.

"Just Say No" also works here WOFF members, when they tell you to do something that you question.

The thing I don't understand is when WOFF leadership tells you to go stand in the corner, go to the fourth building, give up your phone and so on...is that you meekly just agree to their punishment or treatment of you.

HAVE SOME GUTS PEOPLE!  Stand up to these lying, pretentious, charlatans and take charge of your own life.

REMEMBER THESE AND KEEP STORED IN YOUR HEAD...YOU WILL NEED THEM.....

USE WHEN NECESSARY

ENOUGH

NO

WHY?

THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH

BACK IT UP WITH PROOF

ACTIONS

COMPLAIN
DOCUMENT EVERYTHING
CALL THE POLICE WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN DETAINED
CALL THE POLICE IF YOU HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED
CALL THE POLICE IF YOU HAVE HAD YOUR PROPERTY CONFISCATED
CALL AN ATTORNEY IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE BEEN SLANDERED
GET OUT

I have said time and time again, that people approach opposition, particularly in the case of confronting WOFF leadership, are too nice about it, thinking that it would be civilized to do so. However, WOFF leadership is anything but civil when confronted with the truth, or questions, or just saying no.

You can't fight this way. You can't solve the problem this way. They sure won't.

And, if you are among those that believe that "going down to their level" is beneath you, or not in your format, you need to rethink that. Everyone that is "high minded" like this, loses. I know from experience.You must fight every battle at the level it comes for the opposition knows the message loud and clear. They have to know that you understand their position, make them understand YOURS , in their language.

So, Let me start....

Woffwatcher says:

They are lying to you.

I am here to help you, not to lie to you, and certainly not to hurt you or your family. They see me as someone trying to destroy them. They have already done that job much better than I ever could. I don't kike how they treat people. I don't like how they keep secrets. I don't like how they collect and spend your money.  They are wrong. Jane is not Perfect.

If you think that this loud, thorn in their side is just a rant blog, think again.

Yes, I am giving you ideas and perspective. Yes, I am inspiring you to stand up for yourself. Yes, I have a vested interest because I have family there.

I believe I have lesson-ed you and myself to exhaustion. So, future blogs will contain more calls to action,  more like: "in your face". Hopefully more useful ways of confronting them and ideas on who to contact when they step out of line.

WOFF has a long trail of mistakes ready made for someone to blow the whistle. The sad part, WOFF doesn't think they've done anything wrong.   

And I am not pinning my hopes on this blog ranting, or just providing links, or hoping YOU will take it upon yourself to turn them in to a government agency,etc.,WOFFWATCHER continues to be proactive until this mess is done.


-WOFFWATCHER

Politics and Religion and Media

There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil - Remain detached from the great.  -  Walter Lippmann

Who you vote for for President is your own business but also a personal responsibility.
But WHY you vote for a particular candidate is key. And HOW you come to that conclusion.

Reasons like: "I just like the man", "He seems to be doing a good job" are as common as they are telling because they clearly show there that the individual was not really vetted by their constituent.

EMOTION is the element used in this kind of decision.

Emotion, to some people, trumps reasoning simply because they say so (see my earlier blog on why people think the way they do). It is because they have spent enough time rationalizing and therefore THIS IS THE ANSWER, THIS IS MY CONCLUSION. It is right because I HAVE THE FREEDOM TO MAKE UP MY MIND.

When questioned about their decision, they likely get defensive. In MY experience, every single person could not ever give me a policy stance on a particular candidate, state or local.They just liked the guy, or gave me deer in the headlights looks.

While every candidate routinely goes through their party's or campaign vetting process, some vetting is not as comprehensive. Take for instance the vetting of Sarah Palin for Vice President. Believe what you will, a look back now shows she was not prepared for this kind of office given the multiple gaffes and opportunities she missed to add value to her being the VP choice. Instead, she chose to dismiss the media. Followers quickly sided with her.

But they don't know WHY? They just made an emotional decision.

How about the tax situation with Mitt Romney? While running for governor 10 years ago, it was discovered that he did not reside in Massachusetts as he had claimed, but that he lived in Utah and later admitted as much. This came up during a vetting process and enhanced with further scrutiny by a persistent press.

Ultimately, the vetting process established that Mr. Romney indeed did not live in Massachusetts long enough to qualify to run for governor. But somehow he won the election.

The common response: "Well, that's because the media is biased".

No, it isn't. A person who decides on who to vote for in this fashion isn't qualified to say this. They have not done their homework on the subject. There is no substance, just emotion. They are just saying what everyone else is saying because everyone is saying it. Why? Well, they don't know...

If a person had substance and proof that the media (and we are talking about thousands of people here) was biased, then it could be argued.

However, I am here to tell you. some media outlets clearly show their colors. But it's not the common characterization that Fox News is to Republicans as MSNBC is to Democrats. Generally, the facts are clear on one network. The other misleads, mis-reports, makes up stories. What is astounding to me and many people is that their followers believe every single word. And we know better simply because the facts are loud and clear.  Disagree all you want.

This sounds familiar. It happens with religion too.


TV news and talk radio is not the only place where people are misled and simply lied to by bombastic figures.

So, "I just like the Man (or Woman)" doesn't cut it folks. Then we wonder why we have so much trouble with our elected officials, particularly in Washington.

We need to learn how to vet this very important department of our lives just as we would if we were vetting a babysitter, or a neighborhood, school, church, people, when moving in to a new house.


People will say to me that they don't know enough about politics to join in a discussion or to know enough about the candidates.

Wrong.

It's GOVERNMENT. This is where you start. Politics comes later. First you learn the game, THEN you learn about the teams, then you learn about how THEY play the game.

Learn/know what the office the candidate seeks, does.

 Learn/know that candidate's background.

Learn/know that candidate's position on policy.

Understand the policy or the issues.

Too hard?

Then, you have failed. And by failing this very important thing we do along with our other important things, this one is just guesswork at best, emotion for others or just blind faith as a politician once said.

Winston Churchill once said: The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Funny and true.

You mustn't fail at this. You don't need to know enough to spar with another at dinner or at a gathering. Too many times people don't discuss religion and politics is REALLY because someone doesn't want to lose an argument. Just learn as much as you can. This is too important a decision for you to make just based on emotion.

If you have the facts, then you never lose. The person on the other side of you may disagree, but they don't have the facts. They are talking themselves and those around them that THEY are right and YOU are WRONG.


Without facts, you can't convince anyone but yourself and ultitely you wind up hurting yourself. When done in numbers, this can have life changing consequences.

Car salesmen know this is one of many of your disadvantages going into a deal. They know what you don't know.

Many times you will do your car or house or big ticket item research based ON WHAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU. You aren't asking about things not covered. Sales people count on that.

ALWAYS listen to everything a person says, especially WHAT'S NOT BEING SAID.

This is why you should ASK QUESTIONS...about everything. Let people know you don't tolerate being kept in the dark.

Just about every one of WOFF's members  vetted the "church" or Jane with emotion, blindly going through without enough to know what it entails.

Many at WOFF have doubts. And the numbers of doubters are increasing. I can tell by the number of hits I get on this blog as well as the staggering growth in readership in just one year.

Many people are quietly vetting from afar (South Africa, Finland, Sweden, Norway, South Korea, Brazil), finding the facts and deciding on their own. Others come here to see facts for themselves, member and non member and family members and government, etc.

Many come here for the "in your face" message I share with you, my many friends.

Good for all of you.

So folks, don't just"like the guy (or gal)", know what you're getting into.

A little logic, a little faith (in yourself, hey God is on YOUR side), and a whole lot of love, will set you free.

ASK QUESTIONS. DON'T SETTLE FOR ANY ANSWER. SETTLE ONLY FOR THE TRUTH.

WOFF is a culture where asking questions and or doubting may land you in the "Fourth Building".  (and if you wind up there, simply refuse. If they take your phone away, call the police and file a report. If they keep you against your will, CALL THE POLICE....and finally, if you made the decision to leave and they somehow find a way to get you back, leave again..and this time don't let them find you) Faith Freedom Fund 828-286-2361.

There is no justification for punishing you if you have made up your mind to leave WOFF. Freedom to think and or change your mind is still sacred in this country, AND IS PROTECTED. If you are in the process of leaving, you have made up your mind and they have made up their mind to be angry at you and treat you accordingly. Lines have been drawn and there's no going back for either of you. Once done is done.

The WOFF culture is not set up to have it's members freely interact with the community or member's relatives.

It's all about control. Just listen to WHAT'S NOT BEING SAID. Jane controls the message.

WOFF cannot defend their practice if this free type of interaction with the outside was allowed into their environment (as it is in other churches and religions).

So, WOFF leadership tells it's membership WE (meaning WW, and I just howl every time this leaks out)  and the MEDIA and THEIR FAMILIES are TELLING LIES AND TWISTING THE TRUTH, so we cannot trust them. Just like the network and pundits who lie to their viewers/listeners.

Yeah, it's brainwashing alright. How do I back that up?  Look at the WOFF Waiver and look at the "while mind control may be used..."part of the waiver. That's brainwashing.

WOFF handlers control all media about Jane and media.

Does this mean WOFF is laying low? Yes. Well, sort of. This blog has changed that.

WW has learned that some of the local media is clearly indifferent and dismissive of WOFF when coverage has been discussed. News Directors and Assignment Desk people only want something to scream at them before it get's noticed. Some of them are lazy and set in their ways (you know who you are) and want the most obvious and shocking and compelling and ...you get the idea, stuff that's easy to pick.

Some of the kids on local Television, (they're just babies) don't know enough about the world despite having gone to college, to cover a story with any depth other than to gather as many facts as possible and then assemble them into a one minute, thirty second package without knowing to ask what wasn't covered in a person's statement, release or pool coverage. In other words, they didn't listen to what wasn't said.

Some will. They're the ones who yell the questions after the main news conference, as depicted in many movies. And those few greatly skilled journalists in the area, are the exception. You know who you are!

The truth will come out sooner or later. Some of us already know it.

-WOFFWATCHER

A Letter to Families Of WOFF members and WOFFers with families outside

There is a sacredness in tears...
They are not the mark of weakness...
But of Power.

They are messengers of overwhelming grief..
And Unspeakable Love.

-Washington Irving
   .
My Dear Friends:
I cannot begin to understand the anguish  this "church" has caused you. I can only say that I share in that anguish as well.

We must be strong. We must have faith. We must do everything we can to get our loved ones out of there. We must never stop trying.

If our family members have forsaken us, we must forgive them, for it is the influence of fear and control of their environment that dictates their feelings for us.

Despite their words and actions, they need our help. Once out, they will still need our help.

I can only ask and beg to each of you to pray or get counseled or whatever it takes to prevent our collective grief and to some, justifiable anger, from escalating to dangerous acts and levels. It is the elephant in the room no one has talked about, yet.

I feel I must address this.

While Jim Jones, David Koresh, and other cults demise has been self inflicted, no one from outside these groups has taken upon themselves to commit a crime in the name of good of others. So, we will not be the first. We cannot condone violence. We cannot tolerate violence. We cannot consider violence. We cannot commit violence. We will not commit violence.

We must stay strong. We must remain vigilant. We must be pro active. We must pray. We must never give up hope.

It is my considered opinion that time spent in organizing groups or a group would be better spent in researching, making calls, praying, seeking help and thus make more of a difference than having meetings and assigning tasks. I believe we are better motivated when totally focused with one task. We can gather and rejoice later, either here or up there.

WW has pointed out areas where WOFF member and non WOFF member alike, within this series of blogs, where you can turn to for help. Look for links and contacts, feel free to comment or email WW. All correspondences will be confidential, unless you wish your comment be shared.

WW believes that WOFF is short in compliance in areas previously covered and all it would take is one report, one complaint, one phone call, one letter.....ONE BLOG....to bring WOFF to accountability.

Truth is our weapon. It is clean. It is Right. It is the only thing we need besides prayer and hope.

The solution is out there. Hopefully, you can use your talent and skills this way to constructively, lawfully, apply accordingly.

Our loved ones are more than worth it.

And if you fear they may never speak to you again, it would have been worth it to try. For it would be best to try and lose them than not do anything and certainly lose them.

Fear is not an option. We cannot put fear in the way of reuniting with our loved ones. That is simply not a luxury we can afford.

WW is determined. Are you?  WW appeals to you to get moving.

WOFF is foolish to think that those of us in the outside will fail at forcing their accountability.

WOFFWATCHER

Letter To Jane Whaley

"...perhaps we have not seen the peak of your delusion; that we can not possibly forecast what horrors come next..." -WOFFWATCHER


Jane Whaley, you owe your followers, their families and your community, an apology.
It is most likely that you do not realize its necessity.

It is most likely that there are none around who would tell you or could. It seems, Jane, your feckless "leadership" sees to it daily that you hear what you want to hear and see what you want to see.

Jane, you have failed to realize that you have manipulated power in your favor to the detriment of the people and community in which you reside. For your deeds standing up to the little man while wielding your apparent power has proven to have been brazen and unacceptable.

An apology is your only hope of regaining the slightest measure of remorse, of what has been, for nearly three decades, disenfranchising countless of followers and forever damaging an entire generation of people who have given you their trust.

You, ma'am have imposed subjugation and call it religious freedom.

With increasing rage, you and your "leadership" have told us time and time again, that we are not permitted to disagree with you, that we cannot be right. That all of your actions come directly from GOD despite logic and sensibility and compassion and have resulted in heartbreak and hardship, without challenge.

It is indeed a frightening, and a dangerous, delusion, Jane.

Between your version of confidence in your infallibility, ma'am, as well as your demonizing of dissent, you have left a chilling suspicion that perhaps we have not seen the peak of your delusion; that we can not possibly forecast what horrors come next, what will be said to, or about, anyone who disagrees with you.

From documented accounts from former members as well as accounts from current members and those who allege you have kept them against their will, it is clear that the ferocity of your wrath against those who disagree with you in your very own "church"  exceeds the ferocity of your wrath against those outside the "church". And the cruel consequences of alleged infractions against your followers that have been documented, as they further allege, to go beyond the bounds of civil law, will ultimately lead to your own undoing.

For there needs to be some other explanation, Jane, than that WHY you truly believe we should tolerate your nonsense.

Let's agree to assemble a delegation of responsible leaders -- Christian or Muslim or Mormon or Jewish  or Catholic or otherwise, -- who can sit you down and explain the reality of the situation you have created.

Should this "church" leader— unbowed, undeterred and unconnected to reality —  continue her reckless ministry?

Should this "church leader" continue to masquerade and fraternize as an associate of the Holocaust and it's victims only to convince WOFF membership of similarities of persecution? Are you are using those atrocities as models for punishment toward those who do not walk with GOD?

Jane, given the results that are obvious to everyone, why does it seem you have dishonored  everyone around you? Why you have dishonored your supporters? Why you have dishonored yourself?

Why does it seem you have chosen to keep secrets, control the lives of your followers and to insulate yourself from accountability?

If this is not simply the most shameless example of religious zealotry, if not opportunism at the expense helpless souls, then it would have served as example to be the cry of a leader crumbling under the weight of your own alleged lies, if not for more telling daily selfish and narcissistic characteristic examples.

Over recent generations, many of us have witnessed other live, recorded, and otherwise documented examples of religious zeal, much of it with sad and terrifying and deadly results, from other delusional and selfish and narcissistic "leaders".

Short of the extreme acts perpetrated by these zealots, the considered premise of a "church leader" who is perceived as an alleged compulsive liar is nothing less than terrifying and certainly no less dangerous.

So, did you lie to gain power?

Did you lie to keep it?

Is there any reason to even hope that you have not lied about how you intend to use it nor who you intend to use it against?

Do you not believe your words are lies, Ma'am?

Because lies, by anyone, about anything, imperil us all.

Your only option is to close your "church", apologize, and leave.

Jane, NOW. We demand it.

Other than you showing true remorse and walking away, Jane, would be truly unacceptable.

Otherwise, every effort will force those in the world you allegedly despise and lie about, will prevail in exposing you and your "church" and putting an end to this victim factory you have created.

-WOFFWATCHER

Let's Report To Leadership What We Heard.....Updated March 14, 2015

WW is quite aware that Devoted to Jane Woffers  (DTJWs), along with members of their crack "security detail,

report back to leadership, any and every piece of information that is said or written about WOFF or Jane or it's members or it's practices.

WOFF members tattling on one another, even lying about another to get them in trouble, is widely encouraged as an effective way to keep everyone in check, and in constant fear.

What the ( verb, adverb, adjective, command, interjection, noun) kind of religion does this?

Not a religion. It's someone's version of a religion. It's a religion where one person has convinced herself and apparently everybody that will listen, that WOFFers are the only ones going to heaven.

Give us all a very large break!

In the WOFF world their truths win. That's a tiny constituency and irrelevant to THE WORLD at large. But WOFF's actions are far from irrelevant to THE WORLD.

In THE WORLD outside the "church" the facts win. The law favors the truth. The law has been known to fix matters involving non truths.

Lies are what keep this "church" going. Lies are what are keeping families apart. Lies have produced what other hardships for some, as in two or three jobs, some not resulting in payment, and advantage and riches for others, such as swimming pools, furs, jewelry, art, 40+ acres, and a mansion.

Lies like: "If you leave, you will get cancer and die, or become a drug addict, or be sued for slander (if what you are accusing them of is true, then it isn't slander), or your family will disown you (NO, those characters want you to believe that because they are ORDERING your family to disown you, it's not of their own free will), or no one will ever love you again (oh please!), or, (my favorite) God will send you to hell. Oh please!

Jane has no way of knowing your future. You could be in hell now, and I must say with very nicely mowed lawns....and plenty of parking.

She doesn't know any of these things to be true, and she can't prove them. Not even the cancer deaths. God schedules those.

"Lies" are the stock answer given by WOFF'ers when asked about stories ex WOFF'ers tell regarding their experiences at WOFF. They are all "Lies". As if everything about WOFF were wonderful and perfect...

A cadre of lawyers, financial backers, affluent church members and cooperative politicians make the WOFF world possible. This is common knowledge around the Rutherfordton county region. Add a dose of fear, dismissal of the truth, testimonials from current members and leadership, illusion, delusion and deception, and you have WOFF version of credibility.

Although not common knowledge, but the enablers have been identified, and their individual futures and freedoms could be in question, if past, present and future investigations produce details resulting in indictment and conviction. Leadership and Jane's complacency along with complicated legal protection, will only give this mess more ammo for the feds and other agencies to examine.

This is why you must ASK QUESTIONS. Why you must DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. This why you must listen to everything said, but especially LISTEN TO WHAT IS NOT SAID.

WOFF leadership particularly, parses their words, that is, carefully edit, craft what is said, in the form of a statement.

While some corporate entities, even some religions organizations, use public relations to spin the truth, WOFF has it's lawyers, as well as their own measured language to parse and spin as well as refuse to respond, or answer with silence, as some lawyers like to say.

How is that right? A religion where people supposedly worship GOD, but they have lawyers who control the facts and operate in secret and money going in every direction?  This is a very Catholic model if there ever was one.

Here's how the outside sees WOFF:

• Secret Operation
• Controlled environment
• Carefully crafted culture
• Unequally distributed wealth

Regarding WOFF or WOFF-member incidents with law enforcement, government agencies and courts that in the last 15-20 years, WW has noticed that some or all of the testimony from victims or witnesses have been challenged by opposing counsel and resulted in an advantage for WOFF.

The reason for this is that the complainants don't have any idea how to help their counsel build a case. This isn't their fault. They aren't in the business of going to court and fighting a case. WOFF IS. They are old pros at it.

Since the WW blog has been online, an impressive amount of incidents involving WOFF and WOFF members has warranted the attention of local law enforcement. Check the links part of this blog for documented accounts.

If you think you have been a victim of a crime, that is, if YOU believe a crime was committed against you,  then you should stand for your rights. You can't, shouldn't, allow yourself or to continue to be a victim.  No, the process should be to promote yourself from victim to who you were before, just a whole lot stronger. Promote yourself from victim to plaintiff.

Civil rights violations are against the law. Such violations include keeping you against your will when you attempt to leave the church, as well as the subsequent "treatment "you get from the "leadership".


You can grow as a person if you take yourself out of follower and victim mode. Don't let someone else decide your life for you. They can never truly know what is inside you. They can tell you what you're thinking but they can't KNOW what you're thinking.

What you do with your life is between YOU and GOD, the way it was always intended to be. Take out the middle man. Or Women (plural) or Man Haters, after all, this is WOFF we're talking about.

Freedom of speech baby! Responsibly assembled facts stacked against your perceived juggernaut of defense, will always take you down.

-WOFFWATCHER

Who's Lying? The war of propaganda

So, you hear different things from different people about things important to you. WHO do you believe? WHAT do you believe? How do you process what you're told?

Those in WOFF will tell you one thing, others will tell you otherwise, and so on. It has to be tough to make sense of it all and to carry on your daily life.

If you're on the inside and questioning things, are you wrong to question them? Are you wrong to consider opposing views?

Walter Lippmann (American Journalist, 1889-1974) said: “Where all think alike, no one thinks very much”

When political candidates, statesmen and leaders prepare for conferences with a competitor, a potential enemy, someone they seek in which to do business, an opposing candidate, simply doing a transaction with another party, they prepare their own opposition research. The smartest and most logical minds are put in place to learn and document everything they know about the other party, how they think, their history, how they would argue the other side. This kind of preparation is critical in knowing what to expect. Then that information is left to those who would represent industry or country or opposing side, that are experienced in dealing at this level.

Many of us do opposition research without even realizing it.

Say you're buying a home and you want to know everything there is to know about that home. How are you going to find out you're getting a good deal? Are you just taking the Realtor's word for it? The Realtor is serving themselves, maybe the seller but not necessarily in that order. You are just a by product of the process. So, now you have the internet, tax records, the word of neighbors, perhaps even your own experience available. If you have gone outside the comfort of the word of your Realtor, then you have conducted opposition research.

If you haven't. Then, stop that practice. Learn everything you can, and not from only one source. This is a fundamental of good journalism. Everything investigated has to have more than one source to be credible. Try this and see how it works for you. Answers have to meet the facts.

This is part of common sense, which, unfortunately, is not common.

But despite this preparation, many who arm themselves with facts don't have the skill to counter their opposition on equal ground. And this is where people get in trouble. I have seen many a prepared person get taken under by a skilled car salesman, Realtor or attorney because they are not familiar nor comfortable with sparring with the opposition. All of their hard work in gathering information is useless because the opposition took things to the next level.

But, don't kick yourself for this! We are all human. Some of us don't have it in their DNA to spar or negotiate with others.

And this is where dealing with WOFF leadership comes in. They know all the things to say. They have a protocol for every situation, despite how well armed you may be with questions, facts, and such..You are treated first with love ( a manipulation ) and then counseled (second stage of a manipulation, usually involving some type of punishment {wait this is the reason you got out in the first place}) and finally talked in to believing you were the one that was wrong ( third stage{wait, now it's my fault?}). Is love the reason? Or control?

And then, you're back in. Just where you started. How did they do it? How did they convince me? Was I really wrong? Are they wrong? What do they have to gain? How do I know if they are lying?

Simple. You give them power by giving it up to them. The only reason things happen to you is because you allow it to happen. You enable them by not standing your ground and agreeing to the first or next response they have. Make them back up their answers. "Jane said.." or "God said.." just isn't going to cut it.

The same way you give your Realtor power over you by their controlling the information you have on the home you are buying. The same as the attorney or salesman who answers your questions but doesn't offer any facts outside of the questions you didn't ask.  Ronald Reagan said: " Trust, but verify". It works here too.

Consider the facts. Rationalize logic, set aside emotion. What is practical? What is important? What have you gained? How do you see yourself in one year, five years, ten years?Are they answering your questions, or are they diverting your question or answering it with answers. As I have said before: true faith is always willing to be challenged.

Remember, there are a lot more people out there that love you than inside WOFF. This is an indisputable hard fact.It's in the numbers, but most importantly who, like your family and your friends. The Faith Freedom Fund is there if you have no resources. The religiouscultsinfo.com 828- 289 -7923 Hotline is available. And WOFFWATCHER's links and words can hopefully help you see things clearer.

Know Freedom (to worship god as you wish) = No WOFF = No Jane (nobody's perfect).

Fighting for you, Always with tough-love

-WOFFWATCHER

DOCUMENT EVERYTHING... more links & some homework for you

WW continues to explore the areas where WOFF members, and those contemplating leaving, or who are struggling with certain issues, as well as families on the outside, can help themselves as well as others in your situation. Previous blogs have other links as well, and you're invited to scroll back and review those.

So, here begins another list of places, ideas, agencies that may apply to your specific situation, as well as some tips on documenting your experience.

Given that a number of properties in the area may have WOFF ties, a call or letter to the North Carolina Real Estate Commission  would be in order to implement a watchful eye on your local realtors, to determine if previous complaints have been filed, or to share an experience you believe was worth a closer look. A complaint or two is one thing, but a series of letters or calls to their office will get their attention and possibly lead to an investigation.

Do WOFF members go through your mail at "home" or even your PO Box? The USPS has a formidable law enforcement branch within it's organization, and takes any matter of alleged mail tampering, very seriously, if you believe this has happened.  https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/

WOFF has an interesting, if yet telling number of firms with which they do business. Have an experience to share? The bar association might be interested in the goings on of some of it's members associated with WOFF. The links page alone will steer you to firms in cases where they were defended. Why such a defense system? Shouldn't these firms also be under scrutiny?   http://www.ncbar.org/

Has your doctor or medical facility done something out of the ordinary and you think it's WOFF related, then contact: http://www.ncmedboard.org/

The FCC might be the go-to agency if you feel your isp is being monitored by any internet companies which may be associated with WOFF. Do you think your phone calls are being recorded? They will want to know this. http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm

Have you experienced local or regional law enforcement unwilling to intervene in certain WOFF matters? Do you believe that your civil rights have been violated? The US Justice Department might be interested if your complaint has specific details: http://www.justice.gov/crt/.  LGBT persons who believe their civil rights have been violated should contact: Equality North Carolina    

Who carries a concealed weapon in your congregation or area? You might try: :http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Public_access_to_concealed_carry_lists , and your local sheriff's department;  http://www.rutherfordcountync.gov/dept/sheriffs/Main.php  or State Bureau of Investigations  http://www.ncdoj.gov/SBI.aspx  as permit holders names and other information is a matter of public record. It's a good idea to know who's carrying:  http://www.docstoc.com/docs/21975592/North-Carolina-Concealed-Handgun-Permit-Statistics-by-County .As of 2009 , Rutherford County reported 2,765 regular applications for a gun permit, 1,206 Valid Permits, 35 regular permit applications denied and 3 regular permit applications revoked. Also of note, see the link: Half Of North Carolina Concealed Carry Permit Holders With Felony Convictions Keep Their Permit  Gun laws: http://www.ncdoj.com/getdoc/32344299-a2a7-4ae5-99fd-9018262f64ac/2007-NC-Firearms-gun-Laws.aspx  and finally:
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/North_Carolina

Is an individual making it difficult for you to get information at a local venue? Find out what the chain of command is there and see if the top person is WOFF associated. If not, go to that person and tell them what you are trying to accomplish and let them know that there is someone who is making it difficult for you to find out.WW highly recommends the book: Pulling Your Own Strings. It has made a life changing difference in one person I know and can help you with dealing with those who would want to control you. Everything in this book is common sense that we simply don't apply to everyday life and situations. (by the way, common sense isn't common). WW considers the results of your lessons in this book to be a Dragon Killer to those who would try to control you. Most importantly, It puts you in charge to make your own decisions.  Just so you know, WW has no stake on the sale of this book. Besides, a used copy runs for one cent and you pay for just the shipping. Get it. WW will review this and a couple of other books in future blogs.

When writing, calling or asking in person Always be professional, to the point, courteous, and non confrontational. This is the only way civil people make progress.

DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING is very important, even what you believe to be a minor detail, it might be important to an investigation.

In reading recent incident reports as filed by ex WOFF'ers, I noticed that there were certain lack of details, thus making an investigation or for to be charges filed, difficult or impossible. WW understands that it may be hard to DOCUMENT EVERYTHING just after it happened because of the heightened sense of fear, adrenaline, or emotions. This is where witnesses are key. An observer not directly involved can give a more detailed account of the incident.

It may be hard to find a witness if things are being done behind closed doors or if a potential witness is in fear of reprisal. This is why you must train yourself to be able to give as much detail to your account as possible. This includes names, dates, times, what they were wearing, how they carried out an act against you, with what, and when and how many and what they said, where. File a complaint immediately, as soon as it happened.

WW has also discovered that perhaps some (not all) local law enforcement officers may not be comprehensively trained in dealing with potential victims of cult like organizations. This may hinder any possible investigation in handling a potential victim. This is a specialized and necessary type of training and WW encourages local law enforcement to take the initiative to see that it's officers are trained in this area. Like it or not officers, there is a cult in your own back yard and it's members need help. I would also encourage any organizations, profit or otherwise, to bring a treatment facility to the region that treats cult victims. Such a move would bring attention and ultimate credibility to this serious and ongoing tragedy in the community.

WW has concluded from research and observation, that not all members of occupations and industries mentioned in today's blog, are WOFF associated. You might find that hard to conclude this if you are a WOFF'er/ Ex-WOFF'er/Family Member. It's understandable. There is no list of WOFF associated and not associated. You may also have to watch out for people who play both sides.

In your gathering information, or filing a complaint, you may find that dealing with WOFF'ers and WOFF associated people may be defensive. Some may answer a question with a question. Body language and tone are also dead giveaways. WW has experienced this first hand with some members being quite confrontational. Don't fear them as they fear you. You have the power. Truth is power. But also be wary of people you feel you can trust. Only give information relevant to your situation. Never just spill out everything and tell them you're relieved you finally found someone trusting, because not all is as it seems  If it's law enforcement and you are a victim, subject or suspect, then you tell them everything, as you should. Same goes for being a witness in court .

HOW you go about reporting or filing a complaint about something you believe was done wrong to you, and listening to how the other party responds is key. Most importantly, be absolutely sure, truthful  and careful about your details.

Remember, when filing a complaint, ask yourself if it is reasonable and responsible? Does it have details and facts. Don't leave opinions and hearsay. Leave out commentary and presumption. Ask yourself If you were the one conducting the investigation or interview, would you find holes in the account, an axe to grind, or is it frivolous?

The agencies featured here can and will investigate complaints and will determine if infractions, or crimes, have been committed, and proceed accordingly. Your responsibility is to be truthful, stay alert, and DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, for details and specifics matter. If you are in a situation where you believe what you write down and store isn't safe, it is important to remember: WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, HOW.  If you remember just these words, then you can sort them out in your head or on paper later. Only details will matter in your report. Get the names of every one you talk to when filing your report or complaint you file. Leave out the "set up" that most people don't realize they are including in telling a story.

This "church" and it's leadership and membership is responsible for the well being of our loved ones here on this earth. We hold WOFF accountable through our responsible and lawful vigilance.

If WOFF feels they don't answer to anyone, I disagree, with credibility.
 
Stay tuned.

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