Never Underestimate the Power of Determination

"Never doubt that a small group of dedicated people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead


The more ministries in question seem to feel confident that their legal, technical or infrastructural firewall is impenetrable, the more determined, talented, and motivated their opposition becomes.

A couple of examples include: the ways of creative financing the organization, and keeping members in check. These among many other areas have become more challenging to implement due to fragmentation of culture and advances in technology. While some of these methods of suppression have stood the test of time, ever changing technology compromises this kind of structure's integrity, then add a final and productive push from those determined to unveil secrecy and force transparency.

Common sense seeps through ideology and dogma that seems to go against a person's established beliefs, hence the reference about fragmented society. In these people you will find ex-"church" members, those contemplating escape, those still inside but doubting their method of worship and all that it entails.

Then there are those, in the name of their beliefs, or ordered to, who carry out activities that challenge established laws in our society.

Because WW, knows this exists, an here are more suggestions to apply to specific areas in question:

FCC
If you believe your internet or cable is being monitored by your local cable company, contact the FCC. Ask the local cable company if it employs people from a "church" that might conduct this practice. If they say no, contact the FCC anyway.

DSS
Some "Ministries" have been known to attempt to adopt children for their "church" to boost membership. Is this going on in your community? WHY?
ASK QUESTIONS

Department of Homeland Security
Are foreign visitors belonging to a "church" in your community being paid for their work? How?
ASK QUESTIONS

IRS
Is extra work being asked of "church" members for church "business" after putting in a full day of work at their jobs?
Do you work at a bank in this community?

US Dept. of Labor, Wage and Hour Division
How are people being paid for their work for the "church"?


The Police
If something that belongs to you is kept from you, report it.


Document EVERYTHING. It will be useful in an investigation.

An investigation will lead to the following types of coverage:

Interviews with whistle-blowers

Books

A Movie

A Documentary

Songs

Local, National, International News Coverage

Further Investigation

Victim Lawsuits

While those may view this as a blueprint for which to prepare and defend........it's too late..


"Only arrogance can dismiss the possibility of dismantling a potentially dangerous organization. Arrogance is a state of mind, unworthy of combating determination" -WOFFWATCHER

Investigations

About a year ago (January 6, 2011), the United States Senate Finance Committee submitted the results of their investigation of religious non-profit organizations associated with or operated by:
Kenneth Copeland Ministries, Creflo Dollar, Bishop Eddie Long, Paula White, Joyce Meyer Ministries, who cooperated with Grassley’s inquiry, and Benny Hinn.


Recent Huffington Post Article on Best Paid Pastors

The final report concluded that there were "no definitive findings of wrongdoing" and "no penalties for the pastors who refused to cooperate".

The ministries or "churches" replied with seemingly predictable behavior.

Hmm, why are these ministries so secret about their money? Why are so many "leaders" so wealthy?


Find More on the Investigations Here

Although this mission was well intended, the Senator's office and staff may have gone into this without anticipating this kind of reception. These results, although not surprising to WW and kindred spirits (WW readers, with the exception of WOFFWATCHER - watchers, who are not kindred), would most certainly be surprising to people unaware of insiders fierce loyalty to their ministry's system or culture and the lengths they will go to to protect it, notwithstanding the fear and intimidation used by the ministries toward it's members who might stray.

The individuals and their ministries were clearly defiant all the while gaming the system created by government, with a bit of help by lobbyists crafting this system, to distinguish them from other entities.

Huge respect and kudos, however to Senator Grassley's staff for forging ahead with this project. The results, such as they were, actually proved useful because of HOW the subjects of the investigation responded. This now leads to more questions and will certainly lead to more types of investigations, perhaps by other bodies of government, but particularly congress.

WW suggests congress because since Senator Grassley's office took this matter on, and his constituency is in IOWA and NOT North Carolina, it could mean that perhaps YOUR congressman/woman in YOUR district, anywhere in the United States, might feel compelled to start their OWN investigation into these types of ministries.

And why stop at those named in this latest investigation? Why not start with smaller, more local ministries? How about one relatively off the radar, but with similar infrastructure as those previously scrutinized, and with a seemingly rich leader.

Where might you find one like that, WW wonders?

So, if you folks locally feel constrained to contact your local congressman/woman because they fear they might be tied to a "church" in some way, you should still try.

If you're in, say, Orange City Florida, you can contact your congressman there, or Falls Church Virginia, or Coldwater Michigan or Goodlettsville, Tennessee, or San Diego, California, and ask them to conduct an investigation. It is unlikely that they will be tied to ANY NC "church" or ministry.

WW's suggestion to Senator Grassley's staff, if you plan on doing this again (and bless you guys for trying) is that you need a street fighter (no violence necessary or condoned, but someone tough as nails, fearless, if you will) to go in with you to help you with tactics they use and how to counter uncooperative people, you need more people in the grassroots (non church members but those who work with them and facilitate them) to help you gather information instead of insiders, study their unique infrastructure.

Here are a couple of  ideas to consider:

the RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) and HIPPAA (Health Information Privacy Act) statutes.

Although the purpose of the RICO statute is "the elimination of the infiltration of organized crime and racketeering into legitimate organizations operating in interstate commerce." S.Rep. No. 617, 91st Cong., 1st Sess. 76 (1969). However, the statute is sufficiently broad to encompass illegal activities relating to any enterprise affecting interstate or foreign commerce.

The U.S. Supreme Court has instructed federal courts to follow the continuity-plus-relationship test in order to determine whether the facts of a specific case give rise to an established pattern. Predicate acts are related if they "have the same or similar purposes, results, participants, victims, or methods of commission, or otherwise are interrelated by distinguishing characteristics and are not isolated events".

Perhaps RICO provides an opportunity to enable a full and proper legal investigation into day to day operations and infrastructure.

From the HHS.GOV website website:

"The HIPAA Privacy Rule provides federal protections for personal health information held by covered entities and gives patients an array of rights with respect to that information. At the same time, the Privacy Rule is balanced so that it permits the disclosure of personal health information needed for patient care and other important purposes.

The Security Rule specifies a series of administrative, physical, and technical safeguards for covered entities to use to assure the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of electronic protected health information. "

It is not unreasonable to consider an investigation in this category, as it applies to federal law, would apply to ministries that involve their church members to chaperon, observe, participate or otherwise accompany the church member that was getting treated, diagnosed, hospitalized, counseled by a physician or medical practitioner for a condition or disease or routine medical evaluation. Sometimes the clinic or medical practitioner may have ties to the ministry in order to make this practice possible.


Of course, these are just two areas of consideration. There are many more areas of potential investigation to explore.

-WOFFWATCHER

Why Not Transparency?

ACCOUNTABILITY: the quality or state of being accountable; especially : an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions .

As we continue to find answers through TELL A FRIEND...ASK QUESTIONS theme, among the most compelling, certainly controversial, is how WOFF raises money. This leads to WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO?

Given WOFF'S apparent success in some legal battles, it is likely that this organization is willing to produce a substantial amount of money toward legally defending their actions.

WW wouldn't blame the untrained eye who might perceive that the types of attorneys, meaning by reputation and size, as well as their apparent success, would appear to make this organization invulnerable.

Smoke and mirrors, my friends. Smoke and mirrors.

It is one of the benefits of winning in court.

Now people can talk themselves into fearing this organization who stood up to it's detractors, having won vindication through the legal system.

Now, an organization can threaten to sue any comer who perceives it might threaten it.

Again, smoke and mirrors.

So, if you have so much money to spend on defending yourself, where could THAT money go toward making a difference (as in feeding hungry people etc)?

Now mind you, this is a litigious society and people are prone to sue for most any reason.

That said, now you go and give everybody the impression that you're going to sue at the drop of a hat, could give people like WW and smart readers of this blog, license to conclude that:

1. You indeed have a sizeable warchest, ready to use for the next fight. 

2. You're bluffing.

3. You DON'T have a war chest but can come up with the money fairly easily.

ASK QUESTIONS:

• How do you get your money?
• Where does it go?
• Why aren't you transparent?
• So, you have THAT MUCH money to throw around?

Enter the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability

From it's website...

ECFA is an accreditation agency dedicated to helping Christian ministries earn the public's trust through adherence to Seven Standards of Responsible Stewardship.

ECFA accredits its members and holds them to high standards of accountability with respect to governance, financial management and stewardship/fund raising.

ECFA's Seven Standards of Responsible Stewardship™, drawn from Scripture, are fundamental to operating with integrity.

The basis for establishing ECFA and developing Seven Standards of Responsible Stewardship™ is stated clearly by the Apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians 8:21 (NIV):

    "For we are taking pains to do what is right, not only in the eyes of the Lord but also in the eyes of men."

Accountability to God is vital, but people form their impressions of both people and organizations by looking at the outward appearances (1 Samuel 16:7).

The ECFA standards are seldom changed, providing members a steady baseline for consistent application of the standards. The brief statements included in the standards have significant implications; the standards are simple but not simplistic. These are not standards that allow for grading on the curve. Rather, they are pass-fail standards. If a member fails even one of the standards, it is disqualified from ECFA membership.

(Thanks to the ECFA)

WW looked up WOFF to see if they are members. Here's a screen shot from the ECFA website from 1/7/12:

So, it IS possible to safely and responsibly exist as a religious organization, all the while conducting business as usual and easing the minds of your followers and community.

There are MANY religious organizations that are members of this accredited organization. Has WOFF considered joining?

ASK MORE QUESTIONS:

• WHY PUT UP WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR FINANCES?
• WHY NOT SUBMIT TO TRANSPARENCY SO THAT YOU OPERATE YOUR ORGANIZATION WITHOUT AN EVER GROWING INTEREST IN YOUR FINANCES, AMONG OTHER THINGS?
• IF YOU HANDLE YOUR FIGHTS LEGALLY, WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO DO THIS LEGALLY TOO?

It is WW's considered opinion that WOFF's budget cannot afford little fights with media and individuals that they might PERCEIVE as threatening. It would be prudent to carefully consider ANY fight because little ones will only drain their resources as it would lead to unwanted media attention which would lead to government investigation. Multiple legal battles at the same time or even in series would financially hurt this organization. One little fight could turn into a big one with another BIG one taking charge about the same time. This is as clear as day. You simply can't fight everybody.

And, if the federal government enters this chapter through investigation, then game over.

So, the more ambitious the projects, the more questions drawn from business as usual activities, the more the vulnerability.

The more vulnerability, the more people are prone to TELL A FRIEND.

The more the friend is told, the more questions:

The size, fear and secrecy ASSOCIATED with WOFF only brings to those not inside, wanting to know WHY?  This system of operating is bringing growing attention. This is no longer a group of people in Rutherfordton, NC wanting to know, the whole country and those around the globe are starting to ask questions.

The window available now toward fixing those perception issues, issues with things the media and ultimately feds might find interesting, letting people leave WOFF without fear, accounting for finances, among other things....is still open. But for how long?

On the next blog: 

A Senate Finance Committee Investigation....on RELIGIOUS organizations. No finds on the first try. But the second one.......

Stay Tuned

WOFFWATCHER

Tell a Friend......Ask Questions...Must Read Links

Today's final post of 2011 will feature, in WW's view, the most important links regarding WOFF.

Continue after reading the links as WW implores readers to Tell a Friend - Ask Questions.......And, if you are new to this blog and it's contents...read the previous posts and then read this one.

Start with religiouscultsinfo.com , the most insightful, comprehensive and compelling site around that specifically details the WOFF experience from a former member. Some stories are heartbreaking, some are devoted to analysis of mind control, and some are just down-right eye popping in their detail of the goings-on at WOFF. This beyond outstanding blog is a must-read.

Faith Freedom Fund. This link will confirm to the reader that there are serious people with good intentions toward helping those wanting to leave cult-based churches. These are good people who can and want to help. They have helped many people who have left WOFF. Bless these people!

The Trinity Foundation  is an investigative organization based in Dallas, TX, contains some dated, albeit interesting links about cults and has a history with WOFF in Spindale. They have a contact page and do answer the phone if you have questions or you have some useful info to share with them about WOFF. WW considers TF a kindred spirit.

Woffwatcher's links to Word of Faith Fellowship, Spindale, NC   This is the most visited post in the WW blog for 2011. All of the googling has been done for you! It's comprehensive, compelling  reading. Highlights include links to the "don't do" list, and "the waiver", with special thanks to religiouscultsinfo.com.

It might seem as WW is repeating this but.......

It has come to WW's attention that there are more than a few, if not a pretty significant number of people in the Rutherfordton area as well as families invested in WOFF, would like the local community to be pro-active and diligent in policing WOFF.

Although the sense of fear and indifference is still somewhat present, the mood appears to be changing.

Sensing this momentum shift, WOFFWATCHER urges you, the reader to TELL A FRIEND.

TELL A FRIEND about this blog and the three other important links addressing the WOFF.

TELL A FRIEND what you know (is true, not what you think is true) about WOFF.

ASK QUESTIONS

Ask current WOFF members, Ask ex-woff members, read these blogs, ask your local minister, priest or rabbi about WOFF, ask people you work with about WOFF.

Questions will help you some answers, though the most telling answers will be how those you ask behave toward you after you ask. Both Tell a Friend and Ask Questions will bring awareness to WOFF and will place more scrutiny on this organization.

The conclusion is yours. Be honest with yourself about facts and rumors.

Persistence, responsibility, diligence, will lead to results.

Once again: Clear minds, full hearts, can't lose.

-WOFFWATCHER

Definitions, Key Words and Examples

If this is your first time reading this blog, WOFFWATCHER invites you to read previous blogs here and especially invites you to read the "links" blog containing 80+ links regarding Word of Faith Fellowship in Spindale, NC.

Your comments are appreciated once they are moderated. It's ok to keep anonymous when you post them.

And now,

Key Words and Definitions

CULT
FREEDOM
RELIGION
TRUTH
BELIEF
INDENTURED SERVITUDE
FEAR
MIND CONTROL
LOGIC
STRENGTH
DELUSION
INFRASTRUCTURE
WRONG
FREEDOM OF SPEECH


When we can't agree on the definition of words, or simply don't know the meaning, it is likely that we seek the definition(s) in a dictionary.

Lawyers tell us this is among the most frequently used book in their library. It is the reference tool that determines the strength or weakness of a case, an opening or closing argument, as well as the presentation.

Words are VERY important.

Most everyone can agree that this book, regardless of who publishes it, how old it might be, etc, is the book that settles scrabble arguments, and generally settles any disputes, regardless of how the opponent in the argument sees the results.

When an argument over the meaning of a word fails the opponent, the opponent likely seeks to dismiss the definition and will counter with non logic to support their argument, or , as we have come to know it, spin.

WOFFWATCHER has found over the years that one's who are "short in the dictionary number", that is, those whose vocabulary and clear understanding and daily use of words, are usually the ones who attempt at going into a zone where they try to spin or counter to their advantage when it is clear to everyone else that the argument or spin is useless toward winning their argument.

Most everyone can agree in this situation is that the opponent lost this point and is now trying to either back track or manipulate words or a word to work to their advantage. WOFFWATCHER calls this an "out of control" spin!

These types of opponents are the very people who try to pull one over on you. But when called on their ways, a practice readers of this blog now understand is WOFFWATCHER's weapon of choice (among others), opponents kick and scream that their way is indeed right, despite what is obvious to the rest of the world, even a court of law!

When opponents can't get their way, they either become desperate, or have had experience at losing arguments. To defend their position, they create an arsenal to defend it/them. This arsenal can be created as part of an infrastructure that can have several layers of protection. An example of a type of infrastructure: businessmen who set up dummy companies to shield them from taxes, government, liability etc. This has been standard operating procedure in business for decades and is one of the fundamental arguments leading to protests around this country and the world. This type of infrastructure is now in the spotlight and mainstream and understood by more people than ever before.

But that is ONE type of infrastructure.

Another infrastructure example is one that is designed to thwart potential opponents from scrutiny so that it allows that organization the luxury of conducting business, leaving the hired guns to protect their interests.

Their weapons of choice? Fear and money.

Cost to attain that luxury? Money. LOTS of it.

Where does the money come from?
Why such a thick infrastructure?
Why the need for an infrastructure?
What are they afraid we might see?
Is there a reason why such a religion can't be transparent in it's operation?

These are questions that "the world" will some day ask of this organization and community.

Convenient reasons this organization would use: "the world" just wouldn't understand. Or, "we don't want to be in the world". Or, "we don't want the world in our business".

How WOFF operates versus how it appears to operate to the rest of "the world" is so disparate, that it would be hard not to notice, discuss, challenge, fight, earn disdain and all emotions and reactions that any human being NOT in the WOFF world would experience or display. The lengths taken toward protecting the WOFF world should be huge red flag to even the most casual observer.

When this much secrecy/privacy is paramount to the success at continuing this operation, people are prone to want to ask questions.

How about this example: Some in politics are willing to put up with controversy, name calling, angry constituents, scrutiny by the media...all because they want power. And they want to stay in power (so they can get MORE power), in that order.

And you wonder why Americans are angry? Because they can't reach the politicians that made this possible. Why, because of the infrastructure they created. What infrastructure? Well, let's see, you just can't walk into their office and talk to them, they most likely won't take your calls, they will have you screened at one of their town hall meetings and then thrown out if you press them on anything.

That is a form of infrastructure that keeps their distance from them...AND WE PUT THEM THERE!

America is angry because we just can't call them up and fire them.

It's frustrating, I know. Even more frustrating? People who give up or are indifferent to the politicians and the system.

Let's apply this type of frustration closer to home:

People in Rutherfordton County not in WOFF indifferent to the activities of WOFF.

We have seen many results of broken families, individuals and more coming from WOFF.
There are those inside who seek to get out. Many more in foreign countries seeking to leave, have left or are heeding the experiences of those who have left.

Again, more questions. Why are they getting out. Why did they leave? What has it cost them emotionally? Why is WOFF controversial?

WOFFWATCHER has addressed this before and will continue to do so in this blog until the community gets that it would be better off policing itself.

Otherwise, unwanted global media attention is next.

Followed by scrutiny and all that it entails.

Your choice.

WOFFWATCHER

And if you listen very hard, THE TRUTH will come to you at last.....Stairway to Heaven - Escada para o Paraíso com Letras em Português e Inglês

Don't be alarmed now,
It's just a spring clean for the May queen.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by
But in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
 
Despite it's original genre, the powerful message of this song is transcendent. This song is EXACTLY your world, Woffers.

And as we wind on down the road
Our shadows taller than our soul.
There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show
How everything still turns to gold.



-WOFFWATCHER

Não se assuste agora,
É apenas uma mola limpa para a rainha de Maio.
Sim, existem dois caminhos que você pode ir
Mas a longo prazo
Ainda há tempo para mudar a estrada em que você está.

Apesar de seu gênero original, a mensagem poderosa desta canção é transcendente. Esta canção é EXATAMENTE seu mundo, Woffers.

E como nós vento sobre a estrada
Nossas sombras mais altas que nossa alma.
Caminha uma senhora que todos conhecemos
Quem brilha a luz branca e quer mostrar
Como tudo ainda se transforma em ouro.

Lies and a Lesson about Guerrilla Tactics

This morning WOFFWATCHER watched how Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin answered a question about something he said recently in a speech.

“Instead of working together where we agree, the president has opted for divisive rhetoric and the broken politics of the past,” Mr. Ryan said. “He is going from town to town impugning the motives of Republicans, setting up straw men and scapegoats, and engaging in intellectually lazy arguments as he tries to build support for punitive tax hikes on job creators.”

He was referencing the reason for the standstill in Washington over jobs, over the economy and all that it entails. This, by the way, isn't true about the President. Trust me. WOFFWATCHER KNOWS for a fact, this isn't true. This can be backed up, easily!

This is an example of a common tactic in politics as well as in the WOFF world, and the REAL world. It's a tactic best characterized as one from your past as a child in school when someone accused you of something THEY did, blamed YOU, and YOU got in trouble. This is EXACTLY that. This is a "polite" version of guerrilla warfare. It was used against you and you didn't even realize it.

Mr Ryan was asked a direct question, yet turned it around and ultimately didn't answer the question. Questioners repeated the question time and time again, yet he gave different answers. The questioners were educated, polite, respectful, but their frustrations with the way they were "handled", were palpable

The Congressman answered with an answer, not an answer to their question.

We know, politics.

If WOFFWATCHER had asked him this question in public, I would have interrupted him during his non-answer and would tell him that I might be one of his constituents and that I was one of those responsible for keeping him in office, and since I was one of his bosses, he would want to answer my question as an employee rather than someone elected to dismiss me. I would further explain that I ultimately have the power to take away HIS power. So, sir, what's it going to be?

Always anticipating the other side's move, I would expect the Congressman would only know to respond using the polite version of guerrilla warfare, as he did this morning, and might dismiss my tactics as uncivilized and bullying. Again, blaming you for something HE did.

I would have responded that his unwillingness to answer a question should be a red flag to those seeking the truth and that another agenda is his constituent over the people who elected him. And, since he works for me, I would work against him keeping his job as he is not up to the job I elected him to do. I would compel others with proof such as this encounter and provide many others for credibility.

So, subject to this kind of treatment by the Congressman, people are frustrated with the outcome of dealing with people who won't answer your question, but just give you an answer.

Politicians, salespeople, our bosses, spouses, relatives, any one you designate power to, even for a moment, will use the politeness version of guerrilla warfare, under the guise of civilized behavior if you will, against you, from time to time. You then are compelled to cave in to pressure because your going guerrilla isn't an option, not something YOU do. WOFFWATCHER get's it. This isn't for everybody.

WOFFWATCHER has always gone plain 'ole guerrilla on people who don't tell the truth, who bully, who would want to take control over you. In this case, guerrilla can be characterized as not letting the other person bully you, accepting THEIR version of the truth, or control you.

Before WOFFWATCHER continues, I know I have asked readers of this blog to stay respectful in dealing with others. That should remain a pledge you should keep. This is WOFFWATCHER's fight. You stay classy.

The result of this tactic is that it is very easy to make a person uncomfortable by pressing them to tell the truth. You just have to press them until you hear an answer that is everything but something prepared or an answer to another question you didn't/haven't asked. You repeat the question and point out to the answerer that they haven't answered your question(s).

Expect them to try to take control of the situation from you by seeking out help from others, or trying to make you look bad in front of others and so on, just to get out of answering the question. After all, they are not used to such uncivilized treatment!

Where WOFFWATCHER comes from, we don't just let them leave the room.

Jane knows that WOFFWATCHER is one of these people. An interview with WOFFWATCHER would be brutal.

If you are a current or former WOFF member, then you automatically assigned Jane and church "leaders" this luxury of power over you.

Among their tactics are these lies: 

Tell me if this sounds familiar: "if you leave this church, you will be killed by drug crazed people" "you will become whores and fornicators", "you will become hooked on drugs".

These can only BE lies, because: .1. I don't know of any ex-woffer that has been killed 2. I don't know any ex-woffers that are whores and fornicators. 3. Drugs? Why? 4. They can't know what's in the future, They can't guarantee any of these results.  Heck, WOFFWATCHER doesn't know what's going to happen, and YOU sure don't, so there!

How about: "If you leave, or try to leave, you will be admonished by church members". Or: "you will be sent out to seek truth" (or something like that). This would be a good opportunity to leave. I know, it's a high price to leave your friends and community, but do you really want to live in a world like this? Consider this the cost of doing business.

There is a difference between being a liar, that is someone who lies about everything, and lies, which are specific statements meant to support their claim, which have no substance or support of truth.

So, this covers A lie. A lie in this case is used by someone who would stand in the way of your freedom. They couldn't possibly lie about everything, if they did, they'd be liars. I couldn't know or say that simply because WOFFWATCHER is not with them 24 hours a day. (Take THAT legal team!)

When someone is trying to control you, they will say anything. When lies are standing in the way of you and God, you need to seek change.

Worshiping God is a very personal thing. WHY WOULD YOU PERMIT SOMEONE TO CONTROL HOW YOU WORSHIP?

We all like to be among friends, community makes us strong. That's great. However, there are other people, potential friends right there in Spindale that need you, will love you, will welcome you with open arms. Or, you could go elsewhere and find love and continue to serve God just as well there too. (Don't forget about the faith freedom fund in Spindale, they can help you with your transition)

Love is universal. WOFF doesn't have a monopoly on it.


Don't buy in to lies. The WOFF way is not the only way, there are others that can make you happy without losing control over your life and family.

Like the Congressman, in this case, you are a constituent of Jane and WOFF, you have the real power, you can say no, you can leave. You have ALWAYS had the power. You have it now.

Get out, and get acquainted with freedom to worship God YOUR way.

Do you want to go to a church that uses lies to keep it's members, much less "mind control", screaming, pressure? What kind of church is that?

Want a tiebreaker? How much money has it cost you to be a member of this "church" ? Would it be cheaper to worship in a less tumultuous place? You've got to ask yourself:  "Why do they want me to stay?"

Money and control. That's what it looks like. That's what it is. Plain and simple. 


So, just walk. Your power to choose - trumps any tactic,even guerrilla tactics.

WOFFWATCHER